tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-133186677514860379.post4967383180867140374..comments2023-10-10T09:07:42.673-07:00Comments on Chelonian Connection: Turtles!: What Are Chelonians, and What Is This All About?Rosemary Lombardhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01678833484666095578noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-133186677514860379.post-54703995898831056352018-01-12T21:23:59.028-08:002018-01-12T21:23:59.028-08:00Thanks for your thoughtful responses to this and o...Thanks for your thoughtful responses to this and other posts. <br /> You should have seen the male ornate box turtle the night I first took him out to watch a full moon. He stared at it from my stable hand for minutes and breathed deeply. I could tell that from the way his forearms moved in and out, which doesn't happen under other circumstances; and he kept producing his glottal clicks, which over the years have been connected with pleasurable activities. <br /> The same deep breathing happens with others when they are staring at something that I would (also) consider beautiful, e.g., sunsets, some paintings . . .<br /> So, yes, the turtle has behavioral responses to aesthetic experience. From my observations I'm positing that they also experience pleasure from their own creative work and want to impress me and others.<br /> Is the "Scale of Sensations" from your work? If not, do you have citations? It would be interesting to know how the scale was devised.Rosemary Lombardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01678833484666095578noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-133186677514860379.post-20107899992097805072018-01-11T22:25:54.823-08:002018-01-11T22:25:54.823-08:00It is revelatory that turtles seek aesthetic sensa...It is revelatory that turtles seek aesthetic sensation. There is a "Scale of Sensations", sensations being particles. Sexing and Eating are near the bottom of the scale of activities that provide sensation. Aesthetics (colors, line, form, grace of movement, etc) is at the top of the scale and is associated with Creating and in the mind of the creator and any experiencers.<br /><br />An interesting question would be does the turtle create beautiful line and form for solely its own sensational experience or it is also wanting to impress the assistant [wanting to be known], commanding the assistant from a distance to know (and admire) the effects it is creating?Appreciative Customershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07805432849271730207noreply@blogger.com